Paper patched 308 marlin

Steel parts in this product may be alloyed with trace amounts of lead and other elements which are known to the state of california to cause reproductive harm and cancer. If its a paper patch, then youll need to use the smaller bullet, and patch material to. Mass produced bullet molds are designed with very conservative, minimal dimensions north of the crimp groove, so that they will chamber in the great variety of firearms out there. Let me say up front im not trying to knock this round. These include birchwood casey barricade take alongs 25pk. They carry easy and shoot well and make a big boom that echos across the prairies. Harrison and the staff at the american rifleman worked with paperpatched bullets in the. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a. Yes, the express round was developed by hornady and marlin for use in lever action rifles. I found some really thin paper is the paper that shirts come wrapped in, very similar or perhaps even is tissue paper.

Best accuracy is usually accomplished with a much closer. Each strip allows two patches at 45 or 50 caliber so one sheet of paper yields 22 precision cut patches. Typical ever actions like the marlin are not as sturdy as the typical bolt action rifle. Corbin gcm1 gas check maker kits are available in h type hydropress or csp2 megamite press and s type csp1 spress. The first thing that i did was ship it to brockman brockman custom gunsmithing, 2165 south 1800 east, gooding id 83330 for an action job and to lighten the trigger pull to 3pounds. Is marlins design incompatible with common rifle cartridges like. Armys springfield armory for use in the springfield model 1873, which is known to collectors as the trapdoor springfield. Id be interested in either the lever action or single shot categories. Unless you want to use it on something that will come over and stomp you into a muddy puddle or eat you its totally over the top. I have tried them in a ruger single action and a marlin. Buffalo arms company sells over 12000 black powder cartridge rifles. The paper i use is 11 tall and takes about 1 minute to cut into 11 1 strips.

Huge variety of bolt action, ar and service rifle calibers available. Pretty much any chamber will shoot paper patched bullets. There is a lot of good paper patchers in marlin owners, ive read some of their knowledge and will try to get it. The kits produce high quality copper gas checks using. Ive used 1885s, sharps, flintlock with round ball, and the ballard which has killed more than any of them. Patched these a slightly different way than i usually do, and added a. Sell your marlin 308 for free today on gunsamerica. As introduced in hornadys leverevolution line of cartridges, it is the highest. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on the bullet.

I think i recall him writing that paper patched cartridges do not feed efficiently. It is a rimmed cartridge that almost matches ballistics of the. The express comes up short on velocity by 110 fps and energy by about 200 fpe. The next winter marlin and hornady took almost that exact step by creating the. Paper patched bullets ppb are probably the most controversial of all lead bullet styles. Midwayusa carries a full line of 308 marlin express from all the major brands. Can you paper patch a jacketed bullet and maintain accuracy. For the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load. Paper patch bullets were used in the 1800s for target shooting and hunting and are still being used today. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with.

Some a bit better than others, but most factory chambered rifles can shoot paper patches quite well. Paper patch supplies, paper patch templates, paper patch paper, lead bullets, paper patch bullets. With this paper cutter it only takes about ten minutes to cut 100 patches. Marlin 3030s like oversize cast bullets so you are in luck. Youll only need enough lube to cover the paper patch.

I have a solid background in nra high power competition i. Paper patched bullets were designed to allow cast lead bullets to be fired at higher velocity than is normal for unpatched lead. As new designs are ordered, they are numbered and added here. Seems everyone is interested in the 30 cal loads for a 3006 or 308, or a 45 cal quigley load. Found a boolit combo to work and give surprising results. A rifle is a firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder, with a barrel that has a helical groove or pattern of grooves rifling cut into the barrel walls. My marlin will pushe a 4570 at nearly 450 marlin velocities. Both were developed to provide near 308 winchester ballistics in a lever action rifle using rimmed brass.

We go over a few more basics in our paper patching discussion. The new cartridge was a replacement for the stopgap. Much discussion and cussin have been laid at their doorstep. I am wondering if i can use one of the heavier, highertech 308 diameter bullets like a 180 tsx in a bore that is slightly larger. These include aussie outback 308win 165gr gameking 20pkt, australian. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. I started patching a 309 cast bullet sized down to 308 and then patching back up to 312. Krieger barrels manufactures custom, singlepoint cutrifled barrels for bolt action, ar15, ar10, m1 garand, m14, m1903 along with a variety of services. Lay the bullet on a wood board and roll with a new mill bastard file to knurl the surface and the patch will hold. Going forward id be interested in shooting long range rifle matches in addition to wb. This expanding catalog contains designs that are already on file. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load.

Well, somewhere between 20002400 fps a patched round ball of lowish bhn will strip, expect gross leading. I had a flyer or two outta 20 rounds but it could have been my shooting. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. These molds are designed to fit lee six cavity handles.

You can easily shoot all of these bullets to 1500 fps without problem. Remington express 308 marlin express ammo 150 grain core. Riflescalibers for long range rifle side matches sass. If i cant talk you into trying paper patched bullets for hunting or competition for. Case capacity is similar with these three, but the 52,000. Introduction of the new marlin 1895, more than all other factors combined, is responsible for the current popularity of the 4570. Working up midrange loads using the lee 308 170 fn cast bullet is the best. Above 16501700 fps a patched conical of 300 grains will begin to lose accuracy, pressures likely in the high 30k range, twist 1. Reflecting on 30 years of paper patching for lever guns. I have shot the 577450 martini with paper patched pills some years ago and know of the cartridges d o k speaks of, these where boxer manufactured rolled cases set in formed cups with a steel rim mainly pinned in place by the.

The raised areas of the rifling are called lands, which make contact with the projectile for small arms usage, called a bullet, imparting spin around an axis corresponding to the orientation of the weapon. Paper patched projectiles will work with smokeless powder loads as well if paul matthews experiments are correct. If you use my paper patch lube, make sure that it is as soft as butter when you apply it. Right click on the image of the load data and use save as. Remington express 308 marlin express ammo 150 grain corelokt soft point r308m1 remington express 308 marlin express ammo 150 grain corelokt soft point ammo for sale online at cheap discount prices with free shipping available on bulk 308 marlin express ammunition only at our online store. However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets ppbs exclusively for my sharps falling block and. Lee 170 grain fn cast bullet midrange load in the marlin 3030. The bullets im actually interested in paperpatching would be for the. As has already been said, properly patched, the lead never touches the barrel, hence no leading. You can use a much softer alloy at any velocity than would be necessary with a gg cast bullet. I used sticky printer labels to patch the bullets up to approximately. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. You could do the same thing with 4350 or something slower too. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets.

Hi, i have a yugo 8mm mauser rifle i got at a local sporting goods store called big 5. While you are digesting that little nugget, lets have a look at the picture of three very similar cartridges, lefttoright, the. How to make your paper patched boolits 3006 series duration. Most of the pistol bullets and select rifle bullets are. The cartridge uses a slightly shorter, semirimmed case similar to that of the. They succeeded handily with 308 marlin express308 marlin express ammo, when coupled with hornadys new leverevolution polymertipped rounds which are expressly designed for tubefed lever actions, comes really close to duplicating the. Lube bullets will work in those chambers of course, but there are a few customonly chamber designs that will not shoot, or even chamber, a groove diameter lubed bullet.

A very general rule of thumb has it that patched dead soft lead can reach 2,000 fps before things go sideways and harder alloys can do 3,000 fps or more. Though paper patching bullets is tedious and time consuming, in my experience and reading, there are advantages to using paper patched bullets. Register log in home forums bullet casting does anyone load. Most shooters, given quality ppbs and proper loading techniques. You may choose from these designs, use one of these as a basis and specify modifications, or submit a completely custom drawing either electronically or. As far as the 308 marlin express round itself, its basically a remake of the 307 winchester.